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		<title>By: Gott Nytt År &#171; Snaphanen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gott Nytt År &#171; Snaphanen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ehsan Jami og på Stortorget i Malmø og Rådhuspladsen i København. Henover Melanie Phillips og Robert Spencer Og sluttende med..ja,det ved I selv. Hvis jeg skulle fremhæve noget særligt, skulle det være min [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Ehsan Jami og på Stortorget i Malmø og Rådhuspladsen i København. Henover Melanie Phillips og Robert Spencer Og sluttende med..ja,det ved I selv. Hvis jeg skulle fremhæve noget særligt, skulle det være min [...]</p>
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		<title>By: LFPC</title>
		<link>http://snaphanen.dk/2009/05/14/robert-spencer-in-copenhagen-ii/#comment-135242</link>
		<dc:creator>LFPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 22:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Osamah:

&quot;According to Ibn Ishaq, Ibn Abbas and others, this refers to “the clergy of the People of the Scriptures who embraced the faith” of Islam. But steer clear of those who don’t accept Islam: v. 118, says Ibn Kathir, forbids Muslims from “taking followers of other religions as consultants and advisors,” for even those who are outwardly kind actually hate the Muslims (v. 119-120).&quot; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/017657.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Blogging the Qur’an: Sura 3, “The Family of Imran,” verses 64-120&lt;/a&gt;

Interesting, Osamah, isn&#039;t it: According to leading authorities and sources of Islam, the verse you just quoted refers to Muslims, &lt;strong&gt;not&lt;/strong&gt; to non-Muslim &quot;People of the Book.&quot;

Seems that 3:113 is not the much sought for Golden Rule of Islam, doesn&#039;t it? Now where is the Golden Rule of Islam to be found? Where, Osamah, does the Qur&#039;an or the ahadith or the sira unequivocally state that the lives of kuffar have the same value as those of Muslims? Where do they state without any doubt that kuffar are to be granted the same rights as Muslims, indefinitely, even in a Muslim majority country? And even in the kilafah?

Please show me such references, Osamah. And non-abrogated verses that contemporary scholars agree on. 

You &lt;strong&gt;can&#039;t&lt;/strong&gt;, Osamah. Your religion/ideology is supremacist to the bone. Islam is a shitty deal for all kuffar.

And as to your reading of 9:29: Too bad that your view has not been reflected in the inglorious history of Islamic conquest and plunder of other cultures since its inception. You know damned well that 9:29 is acted upon today, as it was for all subjugated peoples from India to North Africa, that Muslims were to collect the jizya from dhimmis. You know about the Pact of Omar, and the humiliating conditions it imposed upon the dhimma.

And yet you make no mention to these brutal facts at all. Kitman and taqiyya will get you nowhere here. We are enlightened enough to know what evil Islam is for free people of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Osamah:</p>
<p>&#8220;According to Ibn Ishaq, Ibn Abbas and others, this refers to “the clergy of the People of the Scriptures who embraced the faith” of Islam. But steer clear of those who don’t accept Islam: v. 118, says Ibn Kathir, forbids Muslims from “taking followers of other religions as consultants and advisors,” for even those who are outwardly kind actually hate the Muslims (v. 119-120).&#8221; <a href="http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/017657.php" rel="nofollow">Blogging the Qur’an: Sura 3, “The Family of Imran,” verses 64-120</a></p>
<p>Interesting, Osamah, isn&#8217;t it: According to leading authorities and sources of Islam, the verse you just quoted refers to Muslims, <strong>not</strong> to non-Muslim &#8220;People of the Book.&#8221;</p>
<p>Seems that 3:113 is not the much sought for Golden Rule of Islam, doesn&#8217;t it? Now where is the Golden Rule of Islam to be found? Where, Osamah, does the Qur&#8217;an or the ahadith or the sira unequivocally state that the lives of kuffar have the same value as those of Muslims? Where do they state without any doubt that kuffar are to be granted the same rights as Muslims, indefinitely, even in a Muslim majority country? And even in the kilafah?</p>
<p>Please show me such references, Osamah. And non-abrogated verses that contemporary scholars agree on. </p>
<p>You <strong>can&#8217;t</strong>, Osamah. Your religion/ideology is supremacist to the bone. Islam is a shitty deal for all kuffar.</p>
<p>And as to your reading of 9:29: Too bad that your view has not been reflected in the inglorious history of Islamic conquest and plunder of other cultures since its inception. You know damned well that 9:29 is acted upon today, as it was for all subjugated peoples from India to North Africa, that Muslims were to collect the jizya from dhimmis. You know about the Pact of Omar, and the humiliating conditions it imposed upon the dhimma.</p>
<p>And yet you make no mention to these brutal facts at all. Kitman and taqiyya will get you nowhere here. We are enlightened enough to know what evil Islam is for free people of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Buch</title>
		<link>http://snaphanen.dk/2009/05/14/robert-spencer-in-copenhagen-ii/#comment-135239</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Buch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 22:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kolonihavismen - som jeg blandt meget andet også er tilhænger af- er ikke en religion eller ideologi, der hos mange tilhængere søger sit program eget program eller andre tilhængeres praksis indført over hele jorden, et stort flertal går ganske vist ind for opretholdelse af begreberne ukrudt og prydplanter, overholden af foreningernes regler- såfremt de potientielle og aktive og passive deltagende individer ellers er med i foreninger, men det er ikke nogle absolut krav for at sympati for ismen opstår, eksisterer, tilslutning findes eller støtte til ismen i øvrigt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kolonihavismen &#8211; som jeg blandt meget andet også er tilhænger af- er ikke en religion eller ideologi, der hos mange tilhængere søger sit program eget program eller andre tilhængeres praksis indført over hele jorden, et stort flertal går ganske vist ind for opretholdelse af begreberne ukrudt og prydplanter, overholden af foreningernes regler- såfremt de potientielle og aktive og passive deltagende individer ellers er med i foreninger, men det er ikke nogle absolut krav for at sympati for ismen opstår, eksisterer, tilslutning findes eller støtte til ismen i øvrigt.</p>
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		<title>By: Osamah</title>
		<link>http://snaphanen.dk/2009/05/14/robert-spencer-in-copenhagen-ii/#comment-135235</link>
		<dc:creator>Osamah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 21:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As you already know this is against those of the People of the Book who fought with the Muslims. Those who didn&#039;t had friendly relationships, as you also know.

They are not all alike. Among the People of the Book there is a party who stand by their covenant; they recite the word of Allah in the hours of night and prostrate themselves before Him. 3:114</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you already know this is against those of the People of the Book who fought with the Muslims. Those who didn&#8217;t had friendly relationships, as you also know.</p>
<p>They are not all alike. Among the People of the Book there is a party who stand by their covenant; they recite the word of Allah in the hours of night and prostrate themselves before Him. 3:114</p>
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		<title>By: Gaza: Kuvøseguf for Allah &#171; Snaphanen</title>
		<link>http://snaphanen.dk/2009/05/14/robert-spencer-in-copenhagen-ii/#comment-133954</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaza: Kuvøseguf for Allah &#171; Snaphanen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] er lidt uklart hvad det er denne video viser. Robert Spencers historie på Jihad Watch omhandlede barnebrude i islam med henvisning til Muhammeds [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] er lidt uklart hvad det er denne video viser. Robert Spencers historie på Jihad Watch omhandlede barnebrude i islam med henvisning til Muhammeds [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Janne</title>
		<link>http://snaphanen.dk/2009/05/14/robert-spencer-in-copenhagen-ii/#comment-133439</link>
		<dc:creator>Janne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ja, touché.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ja, touché.</p>
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		<title>By: Bjovulf</title>
		<link>http://snaphanen.dk/2009/05/14/robert-spencer-in-copenhagen-ii/#comment-133434</link>
		<dc:creator>Bjovulf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@LFPC  ;-))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@LFPC  <img src='http://snaphanen.dk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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		<title>By: LFPC</title>
		<link>http://snaphanen.dk/2009/05/14/robert-spencer-in-copenhagen-ii/#comment-133418</link>
		<dc:creator>LFPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 23:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;em&gt;You should also know that every religion or ideology, including democracy, has a universal goal. But this is something positive, in accordance with human freedom&lt;/em&gt;&quot;.

As per Qur&#039;an 9:29?

&quot;Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued&quot;. 

I have a strong feeling that what you see as &quot;human freedom&quot; has nothing whatsoever to do with Western notions of freedom. And please, do not use the word &#039;context&#039; when replying, or I will most certainly throw up my non-halal dinner over the keyboard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<em>You should also know that every religion or ideology, including democracy, has a universal goal. But this is something positive, in accordance with human freedom</em>&#8220;.</p>
<p>As per Qur&#8217;an 9:29?</p>
<p>&#8220;Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued&#8221;. </p>
<p>I have a strong feeling that what you see as &#8220;human freedom&#8221; has nothing whatsoever to do with Western notions of freedom. And please, do not use the word &#8216;context&#8217; when replying, or I will most certainly throw up my non-halal dinner over the keyboard.</p>
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		<title>By: osamah</title>
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		<dc:creator>osamah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 23:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LFPC

Just read this article. You should also know that i dont agree with your guys &quot;right&quot; to get proof in order to see Islam in a positive light. You should also know that every religion or ideology, including democracy, has a universal goal. But this is something positive, in accordance with human freedom. If this criteria is not met, you cannot call it either Christianity or Islam.

http://www.alislam.org/books/shariah/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LFPC</p>
<p>Just read this article. You should also know that i dont agree with your guys &#8220;right&#8221; to get proof in order to see Islam in a positive light. You should also know that every religion or ideology, including democracy, has a universal goal. But this is something positive, in accordance with human freedom. If this criteria is not met, you cannot call it either Christianity or Islam.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.alislam.org/books/shariah/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.alislam.org/books/shariah/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jihad in Europe &#171; Snaphanen</title>
		<link>http://snaphanen.dk/2009/05/14/robert-spencer-in-copenhagen-ii/#comment-133187</link>
		<dc:creator>Jihad in Europe &#171; Snaphanen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] er ikke helt ny, men vi har ikke haft den før, og det er agurketid.  Se evt. Robert Spencer in Copenhagen , Robert Spencer in Brussels og Melanie Philips in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] er ikke helt ny, men vi har ikke haft den før, og det er agurketid.  Se evt. Robert Spencer in Copenhagen , Robert Spencer in Brussels og Melanie Philips in [...]</p>
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