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Ferguson, der netop har udgivet Civilization: The West and the Rest diskuterer to store spørgsmål på otte minutter med Ziauddin Sardar, “specialist i islams fremtid”. Hvem har skylden for Mellemøstens misère? 500 års osmannisk imperialisme eller én generations vestlig? Og hvem vil dominere fremtiden? De er nogenlunde enige om, at Kina og Indien vil dominere økonomisk og islam demografisk. “Vesten som vi kender det idag, vil ikke eksistere om 20-30 års tid”, siger Sardar. Som det ser ud i disse år, nej næppe. At undgå den demografiske del af profetien i Europa haster, i flere områder er det for sent. Se eller gense f.eks. denne video om svensk demografi.

NB: Vores arkiver til højre mangler, vi ved det. Teknikken er på vej..

“Flygtninge” sætter ild på kirke på Lampedusa”

Hedder overskiften på Voice of Russia, eneste engelsksprogede referat. Det er at stramme historien udover hvad den kan bære, men den er værd at studere alligevel. Den findes også i denne video, der fortæller at “36 “bambini” satte ild på “broderskabshuset,” (antagelig et menighedshus eller lignende) “udlånt af Caritas munkeordenen.” “Her er ingen mad, vi vil til Sicilien, vi vil ikke sove her,” siger de. Alle “bambinierne” ser temmelig voksne ud. Så går de løs på bygningen og madrasserne. Enkelte italienske notitser findes, her og her. Læren er, som så mange andre gange, at når immigranter er landet i Europa, så bliver de der bogstaveligt talt med vold og magt i al fremtid. F.eks. skønner Sverige at de nu har 70-80.000 afviste asylsøgere, der opholder sig illegalt i landet. Morten Uhrskovs flådeblokade af Middelhavet forleden, er det eneste der kan forhindre det, og den vilje synes ikke at findes. Bemærk krigsråbet “Allahu Akhbar” i videoens sidste sekunder.

Tunisian refugees have set on fire a church at Lampedusa Island, Italy. No details of this incident have yet been revealed.For some days, the situation on the island has ben very tense. Local residents were unsatisfied by the torrent of Tunisian refugees, while the latter complained of poor accommodation conditions.The church was set on fire after the priest had accommodated 36 teenage refugees in the parish. Refugees set Italian church on fire. (New immigration boatload lands in Italy, now more than 22.000.)

Teenage girls pestered by gangs of immigrants for sex
Episoden er kun en af mange episoder på Lampedusa.’Tomorrow, Europe may no longer be European’, har Gadaffi sagt. Indeed, der vil altid stå en ny Cecilia Malmström parat med moderlige følelser, der løber af med hende.

Despite a massive police presence, and attempts to move thousands off the island to holding camps in Italy, the situation is potentially explosive. With teenage girls being pestered by gangs of immigrants for sex, the presence of so many young men has also led to sporadic outbreaks of violence on the few streets here. Drug use is also widespread. Some of the immigrants — among them escapees from Tunisian jails — have smuggled in narcotics along with large sums of cash to fund their journey farther north into Europe. But drugs or not, these men are hated by the 2,000 families who live here, and Berlusconi knows it.Gaddafi’s diaspora and the Libyans overwhelming an Italian island who are threatening to come here.

Koranens kristne rødder – interview med Christoph Luxenberg (2004)

Christoph Luxenbergs banebrydende filologiske dekonstruktion af Koranen er fremme i danske medier efter sognepræst Morten Rydals kronik Koranen begyndte som en kristen bog i Kristeligt Dagblad. Da der er tale om særdeles vanskeligt tilgængeligt stof for lægfolk er dette interview med Luxenberg fra 2004 værd at trække frem for dets fremhævelse af hans vigtigste pointer. At Luxenberg er et pseudonym valgt af sikkerhedsgrunde er en af de mange elefanter der befolker den anstændige politiske mainstream, på samme måde som ‘hvis Geert Wilders er så ond og højreekstrem som det antages, hvorfor er det så ham der er under beskyttelse 24/7?’ Man kunne passende spørge de anstændige om hvor mange historisk-kritiske bibeleksperter der er nødsaget til at udgive under pseudonym, men man ville ikke få noget svar (LFPC).

[…] Q. – What do you say, then, about the idea, accepted until now, that the Koran was the first book written in Arabic?

A. – “According to Islamic tradition, the Koran dates back to the 7th century, while the first examples of Arabic literature in the full sense of the phrase are found only two centuries later, at the time of the ‘Biography of the Prophet’; that is, of the life of Mohammed as written by Ibn Hisham, who died in 828. We may thus establish that post-Koranic Arabic literature developed by degrees, in the period following the work of al-Khalil bin Ahmad, who died in 786, the founder of Arabic lexicography (kitab al-ayn), and of Sibawwayh, who died in 796, to whom the grammar of classical Arabic is due. Now, if we assume that the composition of the Koran was brought to an end in the year of the Prophet Mohammed’s death, in 632, we find before us an interval of 150 years, during which there is no trace of Arabic literature worthy of note.” […]

Q. – You have discovered that Sura 97 of the Koran mentions the Nativity. And in your translation of the famous Sura of Mary, her “birthgiving” is “made legitimate by the Lord.” Moreover, the text contains the invitation to come to the sacred liturgy, to the Mass. Would the Koran, then, be nothing other than an Arabic version of the Christian Bible?

A. – “In its origin, the Koran is a Syro-Aramaic liturgical book, with hymns and extracts from Scriptures which might have been used in sacred Christian services. In the second place, one may see in the Koran the beginning of a preaching directed toward transmitting the belief in the Sacred Scriptures to the pagans of Mecca, in the Arabic language. Its socio-political sections, which are not especially related to the original Koran, were added later in Medina. At its beginning, the Koran was not conceived as the foundation of a new religion. It presupposes belief in the Scriptures, and thus functioned merely as an inroad into Arabic society.” […] Scholar researches origins of the Qur’an, fears for his life

Det “tidligste” portræt af Jesus: Guld, eller bare bly?

Vi omtalte for et par dage siden det angivelige fund i Jordan af metal-‘bøger’ der tilsyneladende daterer sig tilbage til de allertidligste kristne, måske endda apostlene. Implikationerne ville være spektakulære hvis dette var tilfældet, men ikke overraskende har disse genstande affødt betydelig kontrovers, og der synes at være i bedste fald massiv skepsis i ekspertkredse om ægtheden. Her nogle links til yderligere information: Jordan Lead Codices (Wikipedia) ; Jordan claims historic metal plates stolen. Just one problem…. . En oldgræsk tekst på en af bøgerne viser sig at være et tilfældigt udsnit kopieret (af en person uden elementært kendskab til oldgræsk) fra en gravskrift fra år 108 A.D.: HEBREW-INSCRIBED-METAL-CODICES WATCH: A FAKE. Det gode ved denne slags historier er selvfølgelig at de kan inspirere til læsning om historiske og teologiske emner der i sig selv er dybt fascinerende (LFPC).

Koranen “hellig” for NATO og Det Hvide Hus

Det må nok anses for usandsynligt at Barack Obama er kryptomuslim, problemet er bare at hans handlinger og udtalelser overfor den muslimske verden har en besynderlig tendens til at bekræfte disse formodninger (LFPC).

Statement by ISAF Commander Gen. David Petraeus and NATO SCR Ambassador Mark Sedwill

International Security Assistance Force

ISAF Headquarters Public Affairs

KABUL, Afghanistan (April 3, 2011) — In view of the events of recent days, we feel it is important on behalf of ISAF and NATO members in Afghanistan to reiterate our condemnation of any disrespect to the Holy Qur’an and the Muslim faith. We condemn, in particular, the action of an individual in the United States who recently burned the Holy Qur’an.

We also offer condolences to the families of all those injured and killed in violence which occurred in the wake of the burning of the Holy Qur’an. […]

Also notice that those individuals who burned the Koran are accounted culpable, and considered responsible for their actions, while the bombers and murderers and beheaders are like a natural disaster that “occurred in the wake of the burning of the Holy Qur’an”.

If this is the response of our brave men in uniform, you can imagine what their Commander-in-Chief is saying. Here’s the full text of a statement released yesterday by Barack Hussein Obama:

Today, the American people honor those who were lost in the attack on the United Nations in Mazar-e-Sharif, Afghanistan.

Once again, we extend our deepest condolences to the families and loved ones of those who were killed, and to the people of the nations that they came from.

The desecration of any holy text, including the Koran, is an act of extreme intolerance and bigotry. However, to attack and kill innocent people in response is outrageous, and an affront to human decency and dignity.

No religion tolerates the slaughter and beheading of innocent people, and there is no justification for such a dishonorable and deplorable act.

Now is a time to draw upon the common humanity that we share, and that was so exemplified by the UN workers who lost their lives trying to help the people of Afghanistan. [italics added]

Once again, we are called to “honor those who were lost in the attack”, as if it were a tsunami or a forest fire. And the reference is to “those who were killed”, using the passive voice — no agentive is involved.

Mr. Obama, like the generals and the UN envoy, considers the Koran to be a “holy text”. If I didn’t know him to be a Christian, I would assume the president was speaking as a Muslim himself. And if that were the case, the statement “No religion tolerates the slaughter and beheading of innocent people” would be an instance of kitman, deliberate misdirection — under sharia, non-Muslims cannot be innocent. They are all kuffar, who are by definition guilty. Killing non-believers is not always mandatory, but a Muslim who does so cannot be punished under Islamic law except under certain narrowly-defined circumstances. […] A Mandate to Protect the Holy Book

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  • At islam´s ekspansion ind i Europa er en katastrofe der kun venter på at udleve sit fulde potentiale er selvfølgeligt helt givet.

    Men vil muslimernes demografi placere dem i en fordelagtig position ellers?

    Jeg har min tvivl.

  • EH

    Ja, hvordan mon vesten ser ud om 20 – 30 år. Hvordan plejer lande at komme til at se ud, når en barbarisk militant kultur er på erobringstogt? Uanset om vi vælger at acceptere vor tildelte dhimmistatus (må al anstændighed forbyde dette) eller en kuet genuin befolkning mander sig op til lidt modstand, vil synet nok ikke være kønt. Balkanisering, libanisering eller islamisering? Hvem ved? Hvor går det først alvorligt galt? Den lille videofilm om Sveriges demografiske udvikling gør vort broderland til en stærk kandidat. Dette vil naturligvis ikke kunne undgå at involvere samtlige nordiske lande direkte. Efter Pisa og Rockwool rapporter (begge taler iøvrigt om lille fremgang???) står politikere fra begge lejre i kø med mere eller mindre håbløse løsninger for at afbøde de værste følger af deres egen katastrofale politik. Niels Egelund, Danmarks pædagogiske Universitet, dumper samtlige de fremførte forslag. Desperationen er efterhånden ret åbenlys.

  • EH

    U.S.A.´s præsidenter tænker naturligvis strategisk. Tilstedeværelse og indflydelse, energiforsyning og amerikanske soldaterliv. Men jeg giver dig ret. Obamas ildhu i “forsvaret” for islam er noget ud over det sædvanlige. Han er svag og ikke den bedste mand til at forsvare vestlige kulturelle værdier. Hvem er forresten det?

  • JensH
  • Bjovulf

    Steenn, kunne vi eventuelt, når teknikeren nu alligevel er i huset,
    få muligheden for at rette i vore kommentarer tilbage? 😀

  • bl

    Interessant, endnu en bog af N.Ferguson jeg skal have købt. Men det er svært at blæse og have mel i munden på en gang han er mindre mealy-mouthed end han har været før sin affære eller sit forhold med Hirsi Ali.

  • Erling

    God artikel om reaktionen på Paster Jones’ lille forestilling.

    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/MD05Df03.html

    Den kaster også et interessant lys på Sveriges udenrigspolitik.

    De Mistura’s main qualification for the assignment in Kabul, however, was that he was very unlike the brilliant Norwegian diplomat whom he replaced, Kai Eide, who turned out to be “a disappointment” (to borrow the description from a New York editorial) as far as Washington was concerned.

    De Mistura – appointed just over a year ago – lacked a stellar international stature, but Washington wanted him in Kabul, given his previous working experience with both General David Petraeus, US commander in Afghanistan, and Karl Eikenberry, American ambassador in Kabul.

    The late US special representative for AfPak, Richard Holbrooke, confided with The Cable, “I [Holbrooke] had a very good talk with him [De Mistura], quite a long talk, we went over every aspect of the relationship. He wanted to discuss how he could relate to us … I assured him that the US government and the US Embassy look forward to working with him … De Mistura has the unanimous support of the US government.”

    Det viser sig at FN folkene ikke blev lynchet af en rasende pøbel, men systematisk henrettet. Den russiske stationschef lod de gå. Jeg gætter på at der specifikt er gået efter skandinaviske FN folk, vi bliver med rette eller urettet opfattet som det svage led i kæden af USA-allierede.

  • Erling

    (De Mistura er den svensker, der blev dræbt.)

    • Marit

      En kvinnelig, norsk oberstløytnant, Siri Skare, ble halshugget av de usiviliserte barbarer. Man mangler ord for å beskrive bestialiteten til disse muslimske umennesker. Siri Skare ble 52 år, og etterlater seg mann og et tenåringsbarn i Oslo. Prisen på norsk tilstedeværelse i Afghanistan er alt for høy, og vi burde snarest trekke oss ut. Men våre lallenaive politikere fortsetter med samme medisin som ikke virker.

  • Peter Krogsten

    Lidt underligt, så meget postyr en afbrændt koran kan forårsage. Hvor er postyret over at ethvert andet religiøst symbol end islams, med foragt og væmmelse i malet i ansigtet på toldbetjentene rutinemæssigt placeres i en skraldespand ved indrejse i SaudiArabien og omegn? Toldbetjenten er en officiel embedsmand, der i sidste ende repræsenterer landets regering. En amerikansk præst er – i bedste fald – bare præst, i værste fald en økonomisk fusentast.

    Skulle USA’s præsident, og en hel del andre, ikke forsvare vestens værdier? Har danske præster ikke højtideligt aflagt ed på at bekæmpe vranglærer (lærer der fornægte treenigheden) og udbrede evangeliet, og ikke på at kæmpe for Det Radikale Venstre og udbrede partiprogrammet?

    • Muslimerne reagerer med vold fordi:

      1. Vold/vrede rettet mod de vantro (Via Koranen) er gudfrygtigt og islamisk, den enkelte muslim der udøver/deltager har således en kærkommen chance for at vise både Allah og sine medmuslimer hvor dedikeret han/hun er i sin retledthed/underkastelse for Allahs vilje.

      2. Vesten´s magthavere er modtagelige overfor de trusler og den vold Dar al islam producerer dagligt, muslimerne får virkeligt noget ud af disse handlinger. Vestens ledelse opfatter sig selv, som værende udeover egeninteresse og søger i stedet at arbejde for hele menneskeheden, især muslimerne, der opfattes som særligt hårdt ramte ofre.

  • LN

    http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2011/04/god-does-not-speak-arabic-pa rt-1.html
    – – – – –
    ANTI-ISLAMIST said…
    I gladly take the risk to be declared a fool by suggesting that there never was a true KORAN, nor a prophet MUHAMMAD. In the illiterate time of the prophet there was a bible, the Book, and there were Christian faiths that already differed, like religious dialects, in the East, in the West and in southern Egypt. The arabs of that time in Mecca, who certainly spoke no classic Arabic!, did not like their own three gods, neighther did the like the Nicean bible of 325 with its three gods. Therefor they picked suitable parts from the Nicean Bible, added their own screwed ideas, and invented Mohammed as a substitute for Jesus, because the single and almighty holy one could not have a son. During the following decades and even centuries they wrote, rewrote and edited the true words of Allah untill those words started to get a solid shape, also linguistically. The Sana’a remains have been carbon-14 tested and only a few of the parchments date as far back as to the late 7th and 8th centuries. What could be called the KORAN did not come out of the closet untill 800-900. The whole stupid religion is a fake, a construction from beginning to end. Mark my words!

    The arabs, tribes- and clansmen as the were, coul not allow themself to streth out any Golden Rule to include ‘all men’, but only those who believed in their Jumbo-Mumbo-Religion.

    On the 18th of Februari in front of some 1,5 million functionally lobotomized Swedish TV-spectators the planet’s most eminent expert after the Pope on GOD, the former nun Karen Armstrong, lied to them all, telling them that all religions were equal, all having a Golden Rule, Islam as well as Christianity – and no single person has since said peep – you are wrong.

    Armstrong —–> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4Vw0UqVXBc

    LN /somewhere in Sweden in the middle of the nigt 02.35 AM
    4/04/2011 8:43 PM

    ANTI-ISLAMIST said…
    Sorry – it was on the 18th of March. It seemed to be older.
    (Vad kärringen kan snacka skit – Humanisterna och Dawkins borde ryta till!)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4Vw0UqVXBc

    4/04/2011 8:56 PM

  • Vivi Andersen

    Tjae, jeg ved nok hvad der skulle ske med samtlige de muslimer der nu beærer Lampedusa med deres tilstedeværelse :

    de skal sendes tilbage til Afrika/Mellemøsten .

    At lade dem få deres vilje = at rejse ind i de europæiske lande er virkelig dårlig pædagogik !

    Det må snart ha´ en ende med at lade bøllerne dirigere os – og jeg mener samtlige arabisk-islamiske bøller, høje som lave !