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(Det er ukendt hvilken af de tre kvinder den blonde er, man ser på vidoen. Nogle steder er hun svensk, nogle steder hollandsk. Hun er ikke trådt frem efter overgrebet.)

According to Heather, an Arab-American living in the Egyptian capital, she and her Swedish and Spanish roommates took to Tahrir as thousands were converging there to mark one-year since the ousting of former President Hosni Mubarak.

“They started fighting over who was going to do what,” Heather told Bikyamasr.com in an exclusive interview. She came forward after seeing the report on a foreign woman who was stripped naked and assaulted only hours after her own incident.“My roommates and I fell to the ground when they attacked us. The people pulled my pants off even as I yelled and tried to fight,” she continued.The incident occurred around 7:30 PM local time, just as night was taking hold of the city.

Heather said the attack happened “in the center of Tahrir.” She said that after the men pulled their pants off, they continued to grab and grobe the woman’s bodies. “It is disgusting. They put fingers up my ass,” she revealed. Mob rape of foreign woman exposes scale of sexual violence in Egypt, Foreign woman stripped of clothes, assaulted, in Egypt’s Tahrir Square, At Tahrir Square, joy turns to fear.

En iransk betonkommunist mod sharia i ABF-Stockholm

4 February 2012, 13.00 hours. Stockholm, Sweden. Maryam Namazie will be speaking on Sharia law at a public meeting in Stockholm, Sweden. ABF huset, Sveavägen 41, Stockholm. For more information, contact: Afsaneh Vahdat, 070-246 84 54

Maryam Namazie, talskvinde for One Law for All skal man tage sig i agt for. Hendes shariakritik er glimrende, men hun er ikke bare en betonkommunist og ikke-demokrat, hun er medlem af Det Iranske Kommunistpartis Centralkomitté. Jeg skrev efter hendes skandaløse optræden i København i september, at man ikke kan bekæmpe den ene totalitarist med den anden.(inkl video) Nu er I advaret.

Is the Mass Murderer Anders Behring Breivik Insane? Part 2
Two weeks ago the official psychiatric report on Anders Behring Breivik was leaked to a major newspaper in Norway. Below is the second part of Fjordman’s three-part analysis of the report.

Part 2: Narcissism, Paranoia, and an Elaborate Fantasy World

by Fjordman

When Anders Behring Breivik was eighteen years old he suddenly dropped out of the final year of high school, allegedly to pursue a political career and other, more important objectives than studying. This career never materialized, however. Breivik claims that he held a prominent position in the Progress Party in Oslo, but was unfairly squeezed out by jealous rivals. Everybody else in the PP tells a different story: they say he was a rather nondescript local member who never made much of himself.

His grades and results from high school indicate that he is of at least average and possibly slightly above average intelligence, although he is not the magnificent genius he thinks he is. Breivik brags about supposedly making multiple millions from his business ventures, thanks to his great intelligence and incomparable commercial skills as a salesman. Yet publicly available information indicates that he was a business failure.

The only thing I can recall of my first impression from the few emails I received from him was that I was dealing with a man with an unrealistic and grossly inflated self-image. This was obviously more true than I could possibly have imagined. Breivik was an uninteresting person who desperately wanted to be interesting.

The court-appointed psychiatrists Torgeir Husby and Synne Sørheim spent four months preparing their report, during which time they had thirteen long conversations with Breivik and read the police case documents. Their diagnosis was paranoid schizophrenia. Husby did not doubt his conclusion. An extended panel of experts from the Norwegian Board of Forensic Medicine reviewed the report and approved it “with no significant remarks”.

Schizophrenia is a group of severe mental disorders characterized by distorted perceptions of reality with unusual thought patterns and withdrawal from reality. The paranoid type of schizophrenia is often characterized by delusions of persecution or grandeur combined with unrealistic and disorganized thinking, irrational statements about unshakable beliefs, diminished emotional expression or emotional blunting, and shifts to bizarre behavior, all accompanied by significant personality changes and a deterioration of social relationships. Common symptoms include a refusal to touch certain people or things and staring at people without blinking, as if you are looking at something else. Those suffering from schizophrenia may also experience hallucinations such as hearing voices.

A number of these symptoms were arguably present in Anders Behring Breivik during recent years.

The psychiatrists Husby and Sørheim highlighted the bizarre ideas Breivik betrays about his own imagined importance. They suspect that he experiences certain types of hallucinations such as hearing voices, but they cannot prove this conclusively. Throughout the interrogations he repeatedly shifted between referring to himself in singular or plural, and systematically referred to the so-called Knights Templar as “we,” not “I.” He has created a grand organization, complete with medals and awards for its great heroes, the chief of which is Breivik himself. ABB takes this idea seriously, distributes staged photos of himself wearing the many medals he thinks he deserves for his courage, and calls himself a future Pan-European Grand Master Knight Commander.

He has told the police that Knights Templar Norway is the highest military and political authority in the country. He says there is a high degree of separation between the individual cells of the Knights Templar, He claims to be a judge in the organization, and is also Commander of Norway. He has issued entirely unrealistic “demands” that must be fulfilled before he will reveal information about other alleged terror cells. Breivik has suggested that Knights Templar have around 80 cells in Europe, and two other active ones in Norway. According to him, the national authorities can save hundreds of lives if they give in to his (often utterly ridiculous) demands.

Breivik returns again and again and again to a discussion of the organization Knights Templar, which probably does not even exist. In doing so he repeatedly alternates between talking about “I” and “we,” thus displaying an apparent fundamental confusion about his own person and how it relates to the rest of the world.

After the initial psychiatric report was completed and he was allowed to read it for himself, Breivik then claimed that literally 80% of the recorded conversations it contained never took place as described in the official report.

Unless we assume that both of these respected and experienced psychiatrists are purposefully lying — which I do not — there are at least two ways this can be interpreted.

One is that Breivik is simply lying in order to deceive the justice system. Such a possibility cannot be entirely discounted. We know that he can be a clever manipulator who managed to deceive everybody around him while planning his deadly attacks.

Another possibility, which is at least as likely, is that he is lying to himself; or rather, he is genuinely incapable of distinguishing fiction from reality. If this is correct, Breivik lives in a world where fantasy is mixed with reality to such an extent that the differences have become blurred and meaningless. He therefore refers to imaginary persons and events that exist only inside his mind, while ignoring events or conversations that have actually occurred in real life. If this is the case, it represents a clear-cut indication of serious mental illness.

As one reader commented, a schizophrenic is unable to tell the difference between internal and external so he externalizes what he sees inside his head, mixing real with imaginary events until he is unable to tell the difference. From an early point in the case he suspected that Breivik suffered from this illness. Comments in ABB’s manifesto about how slutty his mother and sister were, and that they had venereal diseases, are highly revealing. The journals of schizophrenics frequently contain such statements, whereas the writings of saner egomaniacs rarely do.

Journal-keeping is spontaneous behavior amongst many schizophrenics, who desperately try to create some semblance of order out of the chaos of disjointed thoughts and impressions rushing around inside their minds. Modern brain scans indicate abnormal activity among people suffering from this type of mental illness.

Breivik expected that the Norwegian police would execute his family after the terror attacks, and is disappointed that he has not been treated as an ideological prisoner, merely as a common criminal. He also believed he would be executed without a trial, and that he would be tortured in jail. He claims to have trained himself to withstand torture.

Scandinavian prisons are internationally renowned to provide criminals with some of the most humane — critics says “soft” — treatment in the world. Breivik should have known this, since he grew up in Norway. You have to have an extremely twisted view of reality to believe there is widespread torture in Scandinavian prisons, and that the Norwegian police execute the families of criminals.

Torgeir Husby and Synne Sørheim stress Anders Behring Breivik’s extreme narcissism, his complete lack of empathy with other human beings and above all his “total lack of self-criticism” (page 64). They describe (page 58 of the report) Breivik’s brick of a manifesto as being “almost pathetically egocentric”, where he writes about banal details from his life nearly from birth until the summer of 2011. In his manifesto, ABB claims to be a hero and the Savior of Europe: “A perfect example which should be copied, applauded and celebrated.” Husby and Sørheim emphasize the banality of his manifesto, specifically those parts of it most clearly written by himself.

On the other hand, these court-appointed psychiatrists consider it “delusional” when Breivik mentions the possibility of future civil wars in Europe due to mass immigration in general and Muslim immigration in particular. They have received a lot of criticism for drawing these conclusions, and I agree with their critics in part. We can already see rising ethnic tensions in many Western countries, caused mainly by the largest and fastest migration waves in human history. Extrapolating from this situation to predict the likelihood of serious ethnic conflicts in the near future is, unfortunately, not paranoia.

The two doctors have also been extensively criticized in the press for downplaying the influence of Islam-critical writers claimed to be his ideological mentors by members of the political Left, among them myself. Yet out of several hundred pages in the original psychiatric report, the single reference to me may be found on page 173, where Breivik mentions in passing that “The author Fjordman writes a whole lot between the lines, but everyone understands that. This is not aimed at me personally.”

Breivik’s manifesto of more than 1500 pages has been described as remarkably empty of real content and full of internal contradictions, at least within the material deriving from his own mind. His contributions reveal intimate and nasty personal details about friends and family — not particularly knightly behavior for an allegedly perfect knight.

I have not yet read his entire manifesto, but I have a fair idea of what it contains, thanks to references from others and quotes in the press. Based on these excepts, it is frequently quite obvious when Breivik himself writes something and when he quotes others, for the simple reason that his quotes from other sources sound much more sane and coherent. It’s true that he used long paragraphs from a number of essays I have published on the Internet in English, and borrowed a part of the title from one of them.

Lars Fredrik Svendsen, an author and professor of philosophy at the University of Bergen, Norway, has read the so-called manifesto in its entirety and is far from impressed by the creative intelligence displayed there by Breivik. In Svendsen’s view, “The rumors of his intellectual capacity are greatly, greatly exaggerated.”

He has understood very little of the philosophical works he lists among his favorite books. It is a strange text to read, because it is a cut-and-paste job with quotes from many different essays and publicly available sources that Breivik had encountered on the Internet. ABB himself comes off as a simple poseur, however. He contributes little other than his own deranged narcissism and hides behind the ideas of others in order to appear intellectual. In reality “He is nothing. He is just extremely high on himself and incredibly vain,” Svendsen concludes.

The internationally renowned Swedish terror expert Magnus Ranstorp has also read the manifesto. He comments that “Breivik is extremely self-loving and turns himself into an elevated God” with his delusional fantasies of omnipotence. Ranstorp believes that the virtual reality found inside ABB’s mind bears little resemblance to physical reality outside it, but he concludes that Breivik must possess considerable skills of social manipulation in order to have kept his terror plans hidden from all those around him for years. Leading such a complex double life successfully for so long is harder than it sounds, and requires a certain type of intelligence.

In brief: Those parts of his so-called manifesto that appear to be logically coherent and present factually-based views and analysis of wider political issues were not authored by Breivik. Those sections that were most clearly written by Breivik himself appear incoherent and are entirely about him, his family and their alleged shortcomings, and his own incredible status in a strange universe that makes sense only inside his twisted mind.

Anders Behring Breivik had not been in psychiatric care before he committed his terror attacks, and did not display obvious signs of mental illness in his youth, according to those who knew him well back then. This does not by itself disprove the current diagnosis of paranoid schizophrenia, as this condition can evolve slowly over a prolonged period of time. His social behavior is said to have deteriorated gradually over the past decade, accelerating over the couple of years just prior to his terror attacks. ABB lived with his mother from 2006 onwards, but moved to a farm by himself in 2011, where he could make terror preparations.

His mother reveals that ABB had in recent years developed an intense fear of disease and microbes. Breivik was increasingly fearful of germs, and dreaded catching diseases from other people, whom he considered irresponsible. He talked with his regular doctor about the possibility of wearing a surgical mask indoors (page 133) and occasionally actually used one while living at his mother’s home. In her talks, the mother claims that ABB sometimes refused to eat in the same room with her, and was obsessed with the possibility that his food was somehow contaminated.

His behavior became increasingly strange and erratic in 2010 and 2011, when he received large heavy objects in the mail. His use of anabolic steroids and other types of drugs increased as well. He mentioned hearing strange noises and was afraid that his liver might fail. He reported being sensitive to or frightened of certain sounds and radiation, which is common among those suffering from schizophrenia, especially for those hearing voices. He also claimed that spiders came crawling out of the walls all the time. He said he lived in a spider hell, full of spiders and beetles and other creeping creatures that crawled out of the walls and pestered him. At this point, his mother later explained, she definitely feared he was going insane (page 83).

Especially by 2010 and early 2011, Breivik was afraid of hidden cameras or microphones everywhere and was absolutely convinced that he was being spied upon. By this time, of course, he was actively preparing his attacks, so fearing that the security services or the police might keep an eye on him wasn’t entirely irrational. Yet this leaves us with the chicken-and-the-egg question of whether his paranoia predated and fueled his terror plans, or vice versa.

The causes of schizophrenia are not yet fully understood. It is suspected that there may be a hereditary component, in the sense that one may inherit an increased predisposition to it through his genetic material, just as one might inherit an increased susceptibility to many physical illnesses. However, there is probably no single cause. It is known that in addition to biological factors, the environment plays a role as well. In many cases some kind of trauma or stressful event in life can trigger the onset of full-blown schizophrenia in those who are susceptible.

Judging by testimonies from others, ABB may have been slightly weird before, but his social behavior became worse after his business failures when he moved back in with his mother. This would have been a difficult and frustrating situation for many ambitious young men. For a person with ABB’s pathological megalomania, nearly divine self-image, and militant Messiah complex, this may have proved absolutely intolerable, and possibly encouraged his already existing tendency to create an elaborate fantasy world more to his liking.

Anders Behring Breivik was born in 1979 and was 32 years old when he carried out his horrific terror attacks. It is possible to paint a picture of slowly deteriorating mental health throughout his twenties, with symptoms of resembling those of full-blown paranoia present around the age of 30. The first clear symptoms of schizophrenia are often already evident in the late teens, but a slow deterioration accelerating into early adulthood or the late twenties is by no means unheard of for this type of mental illness. Moreover, misdiagnosis is unfortunately widespread in schizophrenia cases. Thoughts and behavior get stranger over the course of time.

The psychiatric evaluation contains many details that had not been previously discussed in the press. Although I was initially skeptical of Breivik’s diagnosis, after reading this additional information in full I find it plausible, if not proven beyond doubt, that Anders Behring Breivik does in fact suffer from paranoid schizophrenia.

This brings us to the most hotly disputed question of all: Was he psychotic when he carried out his terror attacks, and therefore cannot be held accountable?

Of this I am not fully convinced. We will look at that aspect of the case next.

To be continued…

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  • Frank P

    Nyt skyderi i Malmø. De ikke-lokale medier er blevet trætte, de gider ikke skrive om det længere.

  • BeCool

    Arabisk forår på Tahrirpladsen

    Her har vi et øjebliksbillede af det arbiske forår, som den danske venstrefløj fik våde bukser af:
    En flok “forårsliderlige” agressive arabiske macho mænd, der bruger deres nye “frihed” til at demonstrere
    deres arkaiske (læs stenalder) syn på kvinder.

  • Angående Breivik og hans formodede skizofreni, så kan han sagtens bilde sig selv og alle andre alt muligt ind, et stykke hen ad vejen men, man er altså ikke skizofren hele tiden. Og når psykosen lægger sig, er det altså svært, at holde møllen kørende. For det ville svare til, at en syg person spillede rask. Og det har jeg endnu ikke hørt om…

  • Norge

    Ifølge den psykiatriske rapporten har han ikke ADHD, derimot mener en svensk psykiater at han kan ha Asperger syndrom, noe som kan være riktig. Breivik er nok også godt over middels intelligent, McVeigh ble målt til 125 i IQ under fengselsforhold. Å konstruere en slik bombe uten bakgrunnskunnskaper i kjemi er ikke noe menigmann er i stand til, man ser også av manifestet at han er i stand til å prøve og feile seg frem, noe en imponert norsk kjemi-professor omtalte som “den rette forskerinnstillingen”.

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  • Hvor dumme er de kvinder? Jeg har intet tilovers for dumme venstreorienterede kvinder som frivilligt udsætter sig for sådan en situation. Det er ligesom de peace corps teenager som tager til Afrika og ikke kan forstå hvorfor de bliver voldtaget.

    • ytto

      Hva vil kvinnen,var Freuds retoriske spørsmål

  • BeCool

    Svar til Lavard

    Det er ikke fordi kvinderne er dumme. De er blot hjernevaskede af multikulturalismens credo: Værdirelativismen! Som udsiger at alle kulturer er lige værdige og når fremmede kulturer kommer til Danmark må vi ikke forstyrre eller kritisere deres kulturelle praksis.

    Hvis vi gør det, bliver vi udhængt som racister, nazister, islamofober, xenofober, sygelige og onde mennesker.

    Denne kulturrelativisme går rent ind hos især venstreorienterede, idealistiske og naive unge kvinder, der
    tror at mænd, især fra de såkaldte MENA lande, behandler og respekterer kvinder som de danske mænd.

    Nu har disse 3 kvinder på egen krop erfaret, efter et solidarisk besøg på Tahrirpladsen, at der er store forskelle på forskellige kulturer og at kulturrelativismen er en gang venstreorienteret og idealistisk spin!

  • Henrik Petersen

    Hvad er problemet ? Det er jo bare arabisk forår…ikke ? De humanistiske,gode,progressive,empatiske,næstekærlige osv.
    kvinder må jo synes at det er vidunderligt, nu har de jo fået lejlighed til at konstatere, at alle vi der har prøvet at advare dem om at islam er rendyrket ondskab, er islamofobe…ikke ?!

  • Johansen

    Pøbelvoldtægt af en vestlig kvinde på Tahrirpladsen i Cairo. Der må være tale om endnu et enkeltstående tilfælde. Det kan da kun være såkaldte racister og islamofober, som mener, at der er tale om en tydelig tendens, som er rodfæstet i en svært tilbagestående, ekstrem kvindehadsk islamisk kultur.

  • Maria Due

    Peter Jensen/Fjordman.

    Du har ikke nogen faglig baggrund for at udtale dig om ABB’s sygdom endsige en baggrund, der berettiger dig til at betvivle det udførte arbejde.

    Så i stedet for at repetere det, som folk kan læse andre steder, synes jeg som minimum, at du burde forklare, hvorfor det er dig så magtpåliggende at fremsætte tvivl, og hvorfor du mener, at vi skal opfatte din tvivl som mere værd end almindelig sladder, som der har været mere end rigeligt af.

    Mon ikke folk mere funderer over, om du har tænkt dig at vidne i Oslo?

    • Jeg tillader mig undtagelsevist at svare for Peder: Han har, som du nok ved, ikke bare arbejdet med autister, men også i psykiatrien. Derudover har han læst begge rapporter (de er temmelig lange), foruden han har diskuteret ham, med fagfolk. Det er vel mere end de fleste har, der har deres uforgribelige meninger om Breiviks tilstand nu, ikke?

      Dit sidste spørgsmål er noget præmaturt og hypotetisk. Han er ikke indkaldt, og hvis han vikelig hvis bliver det, ville det overraske mig ikke så lidt. Lippestads vilde slag i december, er spil for galleriet og spin for Arbejderpartiet, og han har da heller ikke gentaget dem. Pederr har vidnepligt som alle andre, der måtte blive indkaldt, og det er nok ikke så få: 77 mord.

  • Maria Due

    Jeg opfattede Lippestads udtalelser som definitive, men vi får se, det kan da kun glæde mig, hvis han undlader at kaste sig over bloggerne.

    Da mit kendskab til Peder Jensen udelukkende stammer fra Snaphanen, aviserne og læsning af to-tre af hans essays har jeg forholdt mig til Wikipedias oplysninger, der ikke nævner noget om uddannelse indenfor psykiatri. Selv om Jensen har arbejdet som fx sygehjælper, mener jeg fortsat ikke, at han besidder en faglig baggrund, som berettiger ham til at underkende andres store arbejde endsige sætte spørgsmålstegn ved det.

    • “underkende” er ikke et ord jeg ville bruge om denne eller forrige artikel. Nærmest tværtimod.

      . Although I was initially skeptical of Breivik’s diagnosis, after reading this additional information in full I find it plausible, if not proven beyond doubt, that Anders Behring Breivik does in fact suffer from paranoid schizophrenia.
      This brings us to the most hotly disputed question of all: Was he psychotic when he carried out his terror attacks, and therefore cannot be held accountable?
      Of this I am not fully convinced. We will look at that aspect of the case next.

      • Maria Due

        Steen, jeg skrev:

        “til at underkende andres store arbejde endsige sætte spørgsmålstegn ved det.”

        Foreløbig er der sat et spørgsmålstegn, og fortsættelse følger.

        Jeg forstår ikke Peder Jensens handlemåde.. Han har flere gange givet udtryk for, at han føler sig meget dårligt og aggressivt behandlet af den norske presse og politiet, og samtidig skriver han fx selv et groft udfordrende indlæg, hvor han opkaster den teori, at massemorderen Breivik anno 2012 er Nordens Muhammed.

        Det er ikke fordi, det generer mig, at folk er udfordrende og går til biddet endsige forsvarer sig, men hvis man blot er hadefuldt uforskammet og uden ræson, og det synes jeg, at det er at skrive sådan, så fatter jeg ikke idéen i det, for der kommer jo også en dag efter denne. Havde Peder Jensen opkastet den teori, at Breivik er Nordens Luther, Churchill, general Patton, Alexander den Store eller Christian 4. (de havde hver især mange liv og fejltagelser på deres samvittighed og mange flere end Breivik), så havde alle kunnet se, hvor vanvittig sammenligningen er. I hvert fald indtil videre for vi skal jo holdes i spænding med en føljeton.

        Det vælter med teorier om Muhammeds helse, de mest sandsynlige er efter min mening dem om epilepsi, men aller mest sandsynligt finder jeg det, at Muhammeds “identitet” ligesom Koranen ( ifølge vestslig videnskab) er bygget op over et længere tidsrum som en myte, man fandt smuk og rigtig ift. datidens normer. Lars Hedegaard hælder til, at Muhammed slet ikke har eksisteret, og det er ikke uforeneligt med tesen om en myte, der blev udviklet.

  • Ulla Nørtoft Thomsen

    Jeg har Fjordmanns analyser til gode (og glæder mig til at læse dem, når jeg får opstøvet 1´eren), men lige en lille kommentar til linket til VG forleden (artiklen om Breiviks Al Quaida-inspiration):

    Man skal ikke være et meget mistænkeligt gemyt for at få den dybeste mistro til de eksperter, der orienterer os om Breiviks helbred og tankegang. Fx: En del af argumentet for at fremstille Breivik som Al Quaida-inspireret er, at han – som dem – frygter tortur i fængslet. Men hvorfor nævner eksperne ikke, at Breivik udtrykkeligt skriver, at den eneste tortur, der kan komme på tale i Europa, er indirekte tortur, dvs. at man sætter krigeren/samfundsfjenden sammen med muslimske medfanger, som så udøver torturen? Står eksperterne stærkt som eksperter, når de kalder de torturtanker Al Quaida-inspirerede?

    Det, Breivik skriver, er fx følgende:

    “The problem, however, with allowing capture is that the regime will
    use all means to break the subject. They are not allowed to torture so they will have the
    Muslims do it for them (by placing the resistance fighter together with Muslims). They
    may say; we can’t torture you so we will let the Mujahedeen in our prison systems
    rape/torture you until you reject your beliefs. If you do not reject them after that we will
    let them kill you. It would be an overwhelming success for them if they managed to
    make a resistance fighter reject his political beliefs” (s. 1068).

    Et andet argument for Breiviks angivelige Al Quaida-inspirationen var, at Breivik var høflig og venlig i fængslet. Hans forsvarer gav interviweren medhold i, at Breivik opfører sig høfligt og venligt i fængslet, men udbad sig venligt et par argumenter for, at det skulle have noget med Al Quaida at gøre.

    Begge ovennævnte argumenter er vanvittigt dårlige og holder ikke i – eh – retten. Faktisk får de én til desto mere at give Breivik ret i, hvad han skriver på side 1067:

    “When an operative of any of the European Resistance Movements manages to deal a
    newsworthy blow to the regime (a blow big enough to penetrate censorship), the natural
    response from the multiculturalist regime will be to
    protect its ideology from any and all ideological
    damage. This is usually done by labeling the enemy as
    a madman or discrediting him as a victim in some
    twisted way (character assassination). They will usually
    claim the individual was not a cultural conservative
    resistance fighter but rather a pathetic victim who was
    bullied or discriminated against by someone at some
    point in his past”.

    Jeg ved ikke, om Breivik er sindssyg eller ej, men det forekommer mig i hvert fald ret indlysende, at man ikke kan stole på de norske eksperters udsagn desangående. Det synes jeg, de har vist. Hvad nytter det, at man er psykiater, hvis man ved så lidt om politik, historie og samfund, at man erklærer en mand sindssyg, fordi han i islam og muslimerne ser en trussel og en fjende, som man ikke selv kan få øje på? De medgav jo i rapporten, at han hverken hørte stemmer, hallucinerede eller var usammenhængende på nogen måde. Men hans virkelighedsbillede afveg fra deres, deri det sygelige.. Det tætteste, jeg syntes, de kom på noget, der kunne overbevise mig om, at han er syg, var udtalelserne fra hans mor om, at han begyndte at synes, at hun sad for tæt på ham. Det er godt nok ikke tillidsvækkende, at de på den baggrund anbefalede livslang indespæring og “behandling”.

    Mht fængselsvæsnet, har jeg såmænd også noteret mig et vist skred i principperne. At Breivik skulle isoleres og længe ikke måtte læse breve og aviser og få besøg, forekom mig at have straffende og – faktisk – torturerende karakter. Man kan argumentere for, at han har fortjent at lide og ikke skal have lov til at fornøje sig med den megen omtale. Det kan jo ikke være et retssamfunds argument. Han måtte ikke skrive heller – selvom det næppe ville kunne give efterforskningen problemer. Og hvorfor er al fængselspersonalets omgang og samtale med ham reguleret af faste procedurer? Fordi han virker sindssyg og ondskabfuld og skræmmende – eller fordi han ikke gør?

    • Maria Due

      Har Breivik ikke frabedt sig besøg af sin familie?

      Han fastholder stadig, at han er medlem af en eller flere store organisationer, og det er klart, at de norske myndigheder i alle tilfælde var nødt til at undersøge, om det forholdt sig sådan, og den slags tager lang tid.. Alt andet ville have været uforsvarligt, så Breivik har måttet finde sig i at være isoleret.

      Ang. manifestet har jeg ikke læst det, men eftersom han har stjålet med arme og ben, er det vel ikke så mærkeligt, at der findes afsnit, der ikke er helt ude i hampen. Men det er helheden, har jeg ladet mig fortælle, den mangler sammenhæng. Sidst var Katrine Winkel Holm inde på det i den lange video fra Documents møde den 12. november 2011.

      • Marit

        Jeg vil fortelle Snaphanen at norsk politi i går gikk ut og fortalte at Anders Behring Breivik var HELT ALENE om sin udåd. De hadde ikke funnet NOEN MEDHJELPERE. Etter 22/7 var venstresiden opptatt med å skyldbelegge innvandringskritiere og ” høyreekstremister”.Det ble satt igang en jakt på “rasister”. Noe som gjorde det norske samfunnet sykt og ubehagelig.
        Men udåden den 22/7- 11 vil prege oss i lang, lang tid.

  • ytto

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